Kicking Rights

Joined: Oct 13, 2005 Posts: 723

The only mention of 'seniors' in these posts comes from you slaggy, I said 'long serving'. Being here longer than someone else does not make them 'senior' to anyone, and 'long serving' just means having seen conversations about policing the server many times over. If you see the offer to act as non-playing admin as control over others then you have completely missed the point of my original post, as it was intended to allow people to concentrate on playing their game without worrying about tabbing out to sort out some idiot on the server.

As for the rest, lets not get into flamming thing. I left school too long ago to mention Laughing

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 9:30 am

LOL! I love the strong characters we have here. Lets not let it get out of hand though guys, I cant really see a problem in the way either person orignally layed out their opinion so lets not turn the discussion it a more personal assault.

I think the scrunity of the terminologies used is a little silly, there is a fine line between what one word/phrase can mean when replaced with another similar word/phrase, but i dont think that analysing those fine points will get to the bottom of what appears to me to be a very simple point.

People who are sensible and show desire to have admin rights as long as we have had time to assess they will be responsible should really have them. I know from Mrixs position it is a lot easier for him to give them to people he trusts and knows very well, you have to see it his way too. We have had issues in the past, we did used to give out admin rights whenever. Anyway, thats how i see it, i dont think this matter is any more deeply routed than this.

Joined: Mar 14, 2006 Posts: 232

Maybe we could do something along the lines of promoting a member every couple of months so they have full rights?? Im sure if Mrix got a few of us together and asked us who we nominate we could reach an agreement.

I myself do not see there being such a thing as 'senior admins'. I also would like to think that the majority of us are positive role models to any new members which come along. Does anyone has any suggestions as to how we could be better role models?

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:24 pm

Personally, I think once a person has undertaken the 2 week trial period and then made the decision to join the clan, they should be given clanforge access.

At the end of the day we should all be on a level playing field since we all pay the same fees.

I also agree that certain members should have a higher level of access to clanforge, which relates to their roles within the clans. For example people like Java, Columbo.Heftysmurf, these come in useful when matches have been organised and teams need to be sorted.

It is a real pain in the arse when you are playing a map and idiots start to mess about on the server, nobody wants to be constantly tabbing out of the game to kick people.

People also play at different times of the day.

So as far as I can see, everybody should be given the chance to use clanforge and police the sever and if these rights are abused then this privilige should be taken off them.

Its not as though, we have kids within the clan that need restrictions, we are all supposed to be mature adults of 20 years and over.

Joined: Mar 08, 2007 Posts: 261 Location: UK

scouseandy wrote:

Personally, I think once a person has undertaken the 2 week trial period and then made the decision to join the clan, they should be given clanforge access.

At the end of the day we should all be on a level playing field since we all pay the same fees.

I also agree that certain members should have a higher level of access to clanforge, which relates to their roles within the clans. For example people like Java, Columbo.Heftysmurf, these come in useful when matches have been organised and teams need to be sorted.

It is a real pain in the arse when you are playing a map and idiots start to mess about on the server, nobody wants to be constantly tabbing out of the game to kick people.

People also play at different times of the day.

So as far as I can see, everybody should be given the chance to use clanforge and police the sever and if these rights are abused then this privilige should be taken off them.

Its not as though, we have kids within the clan that need restrictions, we are all supposed to be mature adults of 20 years and over.

WELL SAID THAT MAN!

Community Founder Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 2553

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Its not as though, we have kids within the clan that need restrictions, we are all supposed to be mature adults of 20 years and over.

you really have no idea
I remembered saying that to myself almost 2 years ago.... how wrong I was
Biggest mistake I ever made and clanforge by far has caused the most problems.

Also with most clan communities is very un-common every member gets clanforge access.

Cheers
|2es-mrix

Joined: Dec 17, 2006 Posts: 201 Location: Scunthorpe UK

Hi guys,
Speaking as a newer member of |2es I think it is completly understandable why , (after enquireing with mrix) admin rights arent given to new members.
Its terrible having somebody abusing server rules and not be able to do anything about it. At first I would ask members with clanforge if they could do somthing about it,sometimes I would get replys such as 'put a warning up' or 'you kick em then'. But mostly admins are happy to help,but this means thier game is getting spoilt for me! So now I will put warnings up in the hope that the offending player will stop so I dont have to ask admin members to rueing his game , this is all ok when there is a member on the server with admin access but so very often there isnt and its awfull knowing Im making myself look a fool,.
I know most of this is just the same as ooooooooops is saying,but felt I had to express it from my point of veiw!
Also where is the point when you say your not a 'new' member and can be eligable for clanforge access? Ive been a member a month or so now and I know ooooooooops has been around a few months longer!

On the other note, can I just say it looks to me everyone ('longer serving' or 'senior citizens', I mean 'members' Laughing

) shows a postive attitude,whether its promoting the clan or in game with higher ranking players sharing their skills and helping as much as possible, learning us not so good players all the little trcks of the game! So therefore makes you possitive role moddels,. In this last month or so Ive learnt loads with certain members guiding me along...(not mentioning no names so thier heads dont explode Rolling Eyes

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Anywayz Thanx Gaz!

Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 221

Unfortunately some people don’t fair very well once burdened with extra administrative privileges.

Rolling Eyes

Joined: Mar 08, 2007 Posts: 261 Location: UK

Attacking unlocks every 5 minutes. 5 members currently on the server and TS and not 1 who has clan forge. GREAT!

Members

Ghost
Eminem
Geordieste
Scunny
Ooooooops

Is anything being done about this guys?

Joined: Mar 14, 2006 Posts: 232

To be fair, if a load of people install vista theres not a hell of a lot we can do about it. Otherwise Geordie would have been ok to kick/ban as required.

I agree at some point one or two members need to be promoted 'from the ranks' so to speak

Community Founder Joined: Jun 30, 2005 Posts: 2553

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Attacking unlocks every 5 minutes. 5 members currently on the server and TS and not 1 who has clan forge. GREAT!

Members

Ghost
Eminem
Geordieste
Scunny
Ooooooops

Geordieste has clanforge?

Cheers
|2es-mrix

Joined: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 419 Location: KERB CRAWLING

Yes I have again now but after reinstalling vista I didnt have it so at one point the server was going crazy with idiots attacking uncaps,tk etc... and we couldnt do anything about it at that time which was very annoying.Obviously I do understand your reasons for not giving players admin rights Mrix' however I do think after a certain amount of time players should have access to those rights as we do have players like Ooops, Eminem and others that would use them propely.

Joined: Mar 30, 2006 Posts: 548 Location: wick

I take it there is a problem with Vista & Clanforge???

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:47 am

i dont think so i think its just people have lost the link to the website thus cant log in that happond to me thow i only have access too the bf2142 server Sad

cheers
DgO

Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 525 Location: Manchester UK

At risk of being controversial, im surprised this thread isnt locked yet! Razz

I havent read the above, so forgive me if I repeat important points, but if we pay for the server, we should all be given admin rights. Otherwise, subscriptions should be cut for those that cannot administrate.

Sure, there have been problems with one or two people abusing rights, but I've seen clans full of twelve year olds administer servers with responsibility and maturity. New members should be given rights plus a friendly warning about abusing them and be done with it. Suspension / removal of rights is a great motivator for good behaviour!

I have admin rights, which im very grateful for, but would be seriously miffed if I was getting carrier-spammed and didnt have any control over the situation. In fact, Id wonder, "why am I paying a sub?".

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Oh wait, I have read it now! *prepares for thread to be locked*

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>You might think it is "very inflammatory" but I think you are being rude and devisive.
What you said in your original post was not of a progressive/encouraging nature and was aimed implicitly at starting exactly this sort of argument. By either direct actions or suggestion the underlying message was clear that you have a opinion on how the clan should be run.

Now dont get me wrong, I like you Java, but I honestly think warslag's original post was both polite and well spoken. Sure he got defensive in his second, but seriously guys, there's reading between the lines and then there's gleaming information that simply isnt there!..